Public opinion reveals a pervasive frustration with systemic corruption in Bengaluru's Regional Transport Offices, with numerous personal anecdotes of bribery and bureaucratic inefficiencies. While some appreciate recent initiatives like surprise raids, skepticism about their effectiveness remains high, highlighting a general resignation towards the entrenched nature of corruption in governmental processes.

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You don't need a Lokayukta to tell you the large scale irregularities at every RTO. Lol

No-Age2851

Good to see some action against these corrupt scum.

bhodrolok

RTOs have the most honest hardworking working people 


NOT!!!




 

Technical-Isopod6554

these folks at rajajinagar have kept my RC printed copy from last 30days, have not posted it yet.

It has been over 120days, since vehicle purchase.

Good Riddance.

SignificantPoet546

Due to the fact that govt employees cannot be fired, Govt. Employees don't have accountability. 

The fix is simple, make it so that corrupt employees can be fired immediately. Replace them with other Govt. Job aspirants. We have crores of Govt. Job aspirants but very less Govt. Jobs. 

The only criteria to maintain the Govt. Job is to be non-corrupt, to be accountable and to genuinely help people. 

This will fix corruption and the problem of unemployment.

Mysterious-Guess-858

That explains why I haven’t received my printed DL even after ~45 days. YPR RTO. Anything I can do to escalate this?

ShyQuipster

This will now make the news for approximately a day and then it will die down as soon as the dust settles. These guys know there are zero repercussions for what they do. You could have photographic evidence of their "acts of benevolence" and it wouldn't deter them one bit. 

Govt. Offices in India, in general, have no fear at all when it comes to doing what they want when they want and maybe that's the actual issue here.

mel81x

The govt should get rid of these physical license/RCs and only have the digital versions on Parivahan or Digilocker.

nherenow

thejuliet

Was Lokayukta sleeping the whole time? The fitness certificates are a scam. No one checks the vehicles and their fitness before issuing them. I know a person who got a school bus permit without even proper hand brake for the bus from Koramangala RTO. One can get a fitness certificate without even taking the vehicle to RTO.

nani_from_clura_ai

Some babu somewhere didn't give the regular hafta 1to another babu

gnamu

The so called digital faceless applications does not proceed further until and unless you pay a visit to the RTO and move from one room to another by yourselves holding the document. I had applied for an international driving permit in March this year and till date it has not been cleared yet. Still on the last approval stage and that too after taking a leave from office and moving myself from one door to another. The people just chill there and nobody will be at the office at the designated timings. The RTO I'm talking about is Yehlanka.

I just wish now, I should have applied for these govt jobs to enjoy luxury. Receiving salaries without doing anything and all kinds of free perks.

Sam_1803

Don’t get excited guys. Just a case where the dalals from rto haven’t paid their cut to the pimps from lokayukt

Significant_Risk1577

Now will be a good time to get the job done as atleast folks will work for few days

Mundane-Wave-9610

I paid ₹3000 to an agent at YPR RTO in July for Duplicate RC and I haven't recieved one yet. Whenever I call him, he say the officers on leave, this and that. Fee for duplicate RC is ₹340. I had to go through an agent because applying for DRC online failed THRICE, twice after full online payment.  
It seems like they somehow make it so hard to do it online so they get the share of bribe through offline.  
  
I have applied for Duplicate DL online, twice, in one of the Kerala RTO and have recieved the same within weeks without even having to visit the RTO office.

mynamenotavailable

What's the point of all these raids? What are the actions being taken? Even a 5 yr old kid knows how corrupt these people are. These are just hogwash, nothing else. Better these guys do something productive. I would rather suggest, they vacate their positions from lokayukta and save the citizens from their burden!

Patience2thrill

Its getting more and more difficult to survive bangalore. The rules are difficult as it is, nothing digital works, and now this.

TootaFoota

Also they feel that they discovered something new.

rajesherr

rambochackochan

Every law enforcement sleeps for most of the year ..  looks like hibernation period is over. They raid, take their cut and go for next hibernation.

Shallot6114

Most corrupt citizen facing department un every state in India.

ImmortalMermade

sseemak

dormammucat

Hope to see lokayukta active in the BJP ruled states too.

Bedukinjockey

I had my car DL done last week. I was beyond shocked. I rarely visit any govt offices and I had breife idea on what was going on. But what I saw was beyond my stupid middle class brain. 2 guys may be in early 20s came and siting beside me for car DL test. They did not know how to drive the car. A guy from officer side came, generally asked one by one whether one knows to drive or not. These 2 promptly told no, he asked to call the car driving school and do the 'talk'. They promptly did, and paid 1k each to some one. Informed the same to this guy. Thats it. They were handing over DLs like free pamphlet.  
The bike test was another comedy shit show.

bnghuduga

Next raid Registration offices … with out bribe they won’t do registration.

Idiotsofblr

BriefMotor5287

Who said RTO was not corrupt during AAP government? They had made the process online but you have to submit documents in person and there was no timeline for any approval. RTO staffs just need some silly reason to stop the file movement and you have to pay bribe.

Nearby-Revolution869

Formal-Anything-1598

Lol. RTOs have, are and will always be corrupt under any government

Chibuaha

Painful to read this

Even for such small works , there is too much hassle

Thats why I do not even buy any vehicle. I simply use auto rickshaw for my most travel or may be metro

Seeker_hu

Non-corrupt RTO: Such a thing never existed at any point in history of independent India.

ngin-x

This is exactly what happened to my close friend during a Khata transfer at the gram panchayat office. Your words echo the same experience: “now the khata officer is asking ₹3k as a bribe to hand me over the khata hard copy.”

In my friend’s case, the officer actually took him outside the office to a relatively secluded spot and said the same thing: “It’s ready, but I can’t give it to you.” When my friend told him, “But I already paid the bribe,” the guy just replied: “Sir, that money goes to my seniors… what will I get?” Corruption is in their DNA..

EquivalentWhole2815

I was made aware by one of my friend who recently purchased a flat about the same. It’s not shocking anymore and we can just give it away as we value our peace of mind. One thing is constant, NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN INDIA FOREVER. In Bangalore especially we pay price of not being native sometimes and sometimes even natives need to follow same rituals due to IT salaries.

fyriyc

IMO government has to modify the suspension law, they get caught and get suspended and come back with pay after few weeks. We need a law to terminate government employees if they’re caught doing something unlawful or illegal

Rare-Loquat6699

Same, in last 1 year I have paid (on top of 8L+ lakhs paid for stamp duty, govt fees, cess, surcharge, broker fees etc etc):

- 15k bribe in sub-registrar office when purchasing an apartment.
- 5k bribe to get khata transfer done
- 10k bribe to gst officer to approve my gst application

The govt babus have ruined the f**kin country. Even after digitizing the services, they still find ways to ask for bribes and stall work.

crazyfreak316

When i got married, we went to the sub registrar office for the marriage certificate. The person there said the officer will only approve the certificate if we go and buy 2kgs of this particular sweet from this particular shop. It was the most expensive sweet there and 2 kgs cost Rs. 1500. I bought it, gave it and the officer acted surprised when we gave it. 

5 years later thru a mutual friend i got acquainted with the shop owner. He said it's an agreement they have with the sro. At the end of the day they bring all the sweet boxes back and give it and get back the money. He didn't like doing it (he did not get a cut) but there was not much he could do without being subjected to constant harassment so he just writes it off as a cost of doing business.

Silent_Computer_2050


Congrats on your new home! The actual super built-up area:  Living room, Kitchen,And one dedicated room for storing all the extra receipts and bribe slips. 😂  

In Bangalore, the only thing ‘under the table’ is your hard-earned cash. 
Property price per sq ft: High. 
Corruption: Higher. 
Welcome to the club!

PranayGuptaa

You got scammed by the builder too.. 

The builders usually handle the greasing and the cost of the grease is baked into your price sheet.

If you have paid additional 35k cash at the time of registration, that means the builder has pocketed that amount!!

DevilMadeMeSignUp

Sub Registrar Office and RTO are the places where you can't go without a middle man.

strikingemperor

The sub-registrar office runs on bribes, the officers demand money even for small tasks, and anyone seeking a top position in that sub registrar office must pay lakhs, the corruption is rampant and it's just so sad to see how people are put in helpless situations for getting something done.

SassySubmission

We need to start shaming the wives of these guys in public. Let the family hang in shame. Let the sons become criminals and daughters prostitutes. Eventually these are the creatures utilizing the bribes.

gamergopi

It's honestly frustrating that all these middle men have so much power and eat into our hard earned. Govt has done a lot of improvements, by making so many of these online. But there's always a choke point and it's impossible to move ahead without paying the so called incidental charges aka bribe.

udarvis

What stopped you giving tip to vigilance wing rather than giving bribe?

MudMassive2861

Going to government office reminds me why it’s harder for us to progress

A few years ago I went to RTO Indiranagar office to collect my DL. It was returned since I was not present at the given address at the time of delivery. So the guy at the counter called me inside office and then took me to the extreme end to some corner where hardly anyone can notice. Then he asked me for some cash shamelessly. I was very young and did not carry much cash back then. UPI/Online transfer was not much in use. I just showed him that I have Rs.70-80 cash in my wallet. He took entire money and returned Rs. 10 saying use this for bus ticket.

MrYourPleasure

Next time just complain on CPGRAMS

though not in ktaka but we did in MH. We had bought some plots and there is a similar process here where you have to bribe at each step. This time we just made a file with all needed and might be needed documents and submitted and waited for the deadline, then we complained on the state grievance portal, they closed the complaint talking about some missing document, we submitted that document too and lodged the complaint again, this time they just did our work. If not it would've costed us 50k minimum.

Rude_Ambassador8910

In Govt offices , bribes are openly asked and given. It has become norm. No wonder these people are filthy rich. For me most shocking was bribes in police stations openly being asked and accepted. Congress time people use to protest , now it seems everyone has accepted it as norm. As from media to influencers all bought and paid for positive PR.

AdventurousPin3471

Yatha Raja Tatha Praja. Everyone in the system has been corrupt, from top to bottom. This won't go away until the top ones in the system are fixed.

One_Mechanic_4562

The moment someone tells me they're a government employee, I lose all respect for them because I know this is 100% the type of shit they get up to at work.

djinngerale

Don't the builders get all this done, in case of apartments? Or is yours an independent builder?

No-Painter3135

Yup faced exactly the same. They openly count money as well, even marriage registration requires bribes now days in 2 phases , one to senior and one for the secretary / peon , and they are okay with gpay as well. They know there are no consequences

sam0055

All other states are equally worse. Less worse is Kerala, North Eastern States. 

Same story in all other states.

cranky_finicky

This is India, either you vote appropriately or silence up and stay like a civilian

Sal_plus

Corruption is the biggest issue India is facing and surprisingly no one wants to fix it because even politician get their cut from it. Irritating part is Even if you do anything online we need to go to office for verifying it 😮‍💨. Corruption everywhere.

Tilakksahuu

I paid 7k for Khata transfer, also while doing registration they added banks name instead of my name, so gram panchayt guy asked extra for that.

ExtreamlyHulka420

what is stopping someone from actually filming/recording this secretly and then posting on social media?

dEstiNy_rUler

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meet this guy once or u become this guy...

Patient-Fan9507

Going through a similar experience but sadly can’t do shit about it

Iamsleepwalking_a

If your file kept on hold then you can use RTI to get the status on it, if it is rejected then the same to get the reason. It's a long, time consuming process but you can get the things done without bribing anyone. Also you can report to ACB as well for this.

kkang_kkang

These low lifes write some exam use quota to get in ruin everyones life

Different_Army_7114

Bloody leeches! This ROT is TOO DEEP! No political party can fix this!

Mountain-General1011

For the folks saying to not to pay the bribe.

For starters by the time you reach the registrar office you have paid the stamp duty amount which is around 5 lakhs for property of 1 cr .

Apart from that you have already paid modt etc to the bank , legal fees etc .

The above are non refundable .

I am not even counting sale agreement advance paid to the seller , in most cases its around 5 percent to 10 of sale price , i.e say 10 L again.


So you have around 16 Lakhs rupees spent.

The question is can you afford to have that much money laying still for indefinite amount of time.

Also you cannot argue with sub registrar as he will ask you documents which you as a common man cannot get your hand on even if you do the amount spent is significant.


Sadly I had to succumb to this,  I also heard some builders sponsor suv registrar to get him appointed,  the bribe money for post lol.

spd_47

Just want someone from Mumbai or Delhi to enlighten us as to how to works in other Teri 1 cities.

Creepy-Start-2733

Where is lok ayuktha and other entities when you need them? Lowest level scums on earth!

Luffy-Gear4th

Hey, I sympathise with you, but I have to disagree with changing your electricity meter, based on my fantastic experience with BESCOM.

&gt; Another bribe case in, I have to do the name change from builder to my name in BESCOM. I was relieved after knowing that they have a Facility to do it online on their website. I went to website fill all the required details and paid ₹200 as a fee. Hoping it will be done and my name will start reflecting in next bill cycle. To my surprise, I get a call from one of the BESCOM officer asking me to visit office and bring the required documents and telling me they will not process the request until I visit. Now you can guess why this visit is required, I went their and they shamelessly asking ₹2000 to do the job done.

On the BESCOM online site, there is a list of documents, some that you can upload online, and a list of documents that you need to take in person.  Visting the office is mandatory to verify your Aadhar and receive the documents.

IIRC, the documents required:


1. NOC from the builder/previous owner. (The builder should know the format, elsethe BESCOM site has a template.)
1. Notarized copy of the sale deed.  My deed was more than 25 pages, and there is a charge per page, so this cost me about 1.6K at a nearby Notary.
1. Indemnity Bond on stamp paper (Std cost 500/-)
1. LT Agreement (available on BESCOM site, all stamp paper is 500/-)
1. Copy of Khata, (if availalbe, Khata Extract)
1. Copy of recent electricity bill
1. 1 Photo (of owner, you)
1. Original Aadhar and copy for submission.
1. Carry 4-5 photos your electricity meter, try and get the RRNo and any other clearly visible.  The office were fine with me sending the photos from my phone.

I was also asked to carry a cardboard file (standard office file) as they didn't have a supply.  

I was prepared with everything except the aadhar copy and photos, and file, all of which I bought / procured from nearby stores.

All included, it cost me close to 2K, but not a penny was discussed in the BESCOM office.  They first checked my documents, told me what was missing and requested that I bring my own file.  When I came back, they checked again, accepted the file and wished me a good day.

Maybe I was just lucky, but all I can say was that I was very impressed with the folks that I met at the office, and it really gave me a great impression of BESCOM.

desi_geek

If I put down the list of bribe that I have paid at different govt offices then my brain goes dead and mind is becomes frustrating, it has just calm down from
last 6 months after building a house! 
Started with obviously plot registration, then the actual list starts - BDA, BBMP, BESCOM, BWSSB, Middle men, contractors to this shit done. 
I remember paying 50-60k just to get my plan approved and still it was not approved to built up area of what I had requested so that they can come again near my house to more money! I am so tired fighting and gave up! 
Roads that connect to my house are shitty and no one is here to support me

needawomanbysoul

I've lived in a few cities in India. By leaps and bounds, Bangalore is the most corrupt

Practical_Ant_9676

I have heard there is literally an auction to be the BDA minister 😅 what more do u expect at these levels then.. Bangalore is the ultimate cash cow for politicians..I wish Nepal like protest happens in Bangalore first.

dragonhussle

Make it go viral on LinkedIn and Twitter. It’s not like people don’t know this: we have normalised and accepted corruption as a way of life. Already we are in stress with our jobs, family issues and health. In spite of all this and paying tax, the common person has to suffer, because of someone’s greed. I don’t understand the concept of karma that fails and doesn’t punish such greedy people.

Artistic_Nothing2808

After my first purchase decade back, I have promised not to invest in Bangalore even if I can without any hassle. This is the most prominent reason. You add each drop of money, make nth sacrifices to build a home. Then feed these ever hungry, rude and arrogant dumb f\*cks every step. It drained me completely. May they and their families rot in hell, feel the pain of each of buyer has gone through till they exist on this earth.

I know as an Indian we can't escape bribe, but wherever possible I'll skip investing. No more investment in "building the empire of corruption in the name of building nation".

f1-fame

Yes, I too have purchased an apartment recently and I also have paid all these bribes in cash. Everyone I know from our apartment has paid it.

Chad_Giraffe

It is not the corrupt government employees reason for this level of corruption.
It is the people who keep feeding it.
People are selfish and not ready to even raise their voice against this corruption.
Just start a movement and make everyone stop buying or registering for a few months.
Their entire system will fall down.. but we won't do that. 
Few will still go ahead, but let's say 80% reduction in registration, then what will happen.... 
Once we make them do their work without bribe, the system will clean itself automatically. Not to 100% , but still..
You also have social media to expose these registars anonymously as well, these things will get viral instantly....
Just put down an estimate of how much bribe he is taking on daily basis and create a viral video...
Expose them and their families.... No need to even prove, the  social media will take of it

MelodicPreparation8

People need to come together and can change the system within few months to a year, People have the power in democracy , Don't expect the system to change , it will never happen in the next 1000 years if people dont take initiative.

Icy_Abrocoma9909

You can record the incident and share it to the anti bribery commission. You should pay with some chemical laced notes, so that the official can be arrested with evidence.

venkatramanans

To live and thrive in Tier 1 India, where everything is privatised and just works, you have to go through Tier 2 India where you please the "govt approved middlemen" and "private players" to move things along for you, just so that you get the privilege of paying sarkari babus of Tier 3 India who are not even ashamed to ask a bribe for doing their job. Depressing and disheartening state of affairs.

ProAnti_316

Even CM cannot control revenue department corruption, that is how deep the rot runs.  

When the e-khata scheme was introduced, one of the requirements was the EC. Revenue department officials spotted the opportunity, and promptly ensured that EC issuance was blocked on some pretext ("system down").   

Rather than take these guys on head-on, government simply amended the rules so that EC is now not needed for e-khata unless the property is being sold.

aveihs56m

There is no way one can stop corruption unless top hierarchy want to.  Consider this as pilferage and move on  . . unless you have time / power to fight the system

maveric_0123

Refuse to believe. India is a corruption free country from 2014. Minimum government,  maximum governance something something

LeadingAge7080

It's just the cost of doing things in India. Don't take it personally. I don't know anybody who won't do the same thing if they got a govt job. It's in our DNA.

kingsnowsand

LoneWolf9616

Why do you need a paper khata when you could have applied for ekhata after registration?   Also, the BESCOM name transfer isn't fully online.  You would have get documents, signed and submit them to the office.  Checkout [zencitizen.in](http://zencitizen.in) guides section.

Same here...am paying 35k for Khata transfer...it's a loot. And I waited 10 years for transfer hoping things will change

malbar2

Can confirm from personal experience that BESCOM is one of the most corrupt govt offices.

stewie_404

This is why the Karnataka High court established "Lokayukta Commission".

tylorzx

You are actually lucky, Registrar office usually quotes in percentage of the house value for bribes.

Responsible_Wolf_242

This has always been the case. These officers you bribe apparently have to pay for their postings.

So the bribes you pay go towards paying whoever they paid for the posting.

It's not new. If anything it shows how deep corruption runs in our country.

Since you've already paid now, there's no point, but had you approached Lokayukta before, maybe you could've brought them to justice.

Jackrabbit_69

Reddit forum members in India has a good concentration of children of govt servants. But everybody genuinely believes that his/her parents are the most honest people on this planet and had they been corrupt, they would be extremely rich! 
 
Do you think all these children are stupid? Either that or the corruption does not exist in India?

PuneFIRE

Same here in Hyderabad. To change the name for tax mutation they are asking for bribe.  
The electricity name change atleast was given a facility. Interesting thing I did it in 350 Rupees (including the franking paper, xerox charges and actual 25 rupee charge for electricity board) but outside these middleman charge 1200.

PJB8

I filed an RTI to seek clarification on the reasons for the delay in my work. And most of the time it work.

Kind_Atmosphere6994

Normal day in india normal day at the registrar.

19forty4

There is no other way to get this done, anyway you'll end up paying the bribe to get the work done. Wear a hidden cam or spy cam and record this, once your work is done. Expose them!! Upload the clip!!! At least this way they'll learn eventually.

Bladerunner_26

I remember when I went to register mine, same thing was communicated to me by my builder, I refused to given any sort of bribe, went shouting in registrar office, started blasting in twitter, I even recorded some convos, well not to deny there was lot of hassle, but i got my registration done with paying any bribe.

these corrupt officers will try to break you by scaring you with delays, just have all the document and don't give in.

badmascompany

You know, Lokayukta was formed to put a stop to this systemic corruption. Coz it has to be something from inside the system. But guess what! Lokayukta plays a big part in propagating this systemic corruption. 

BBMP, BESCOM, office of the Registrar, BWSSB are so corrupt that they don't care if they don't receive salaries. Coz their livelihood depends on how shamelessly they can lick coins off of soiled shoes. 

It has become a fabric of their very existence. The idea of "Corruption tactics" being a part of the exams is not even farfetched these days. 

The BESCOM official who came to address an issue in their mainline, asks for a bribe of 1000 while putting out his gold-ring-studded palm!

conspicuousLurker

I purchased a property and got the ekhata transferred to my name automatically. I had to pay some charges on stamp duty to download it. Is there any other khata that I need to take?

qaanblr

For BESCOM i just paid 700 and few visits to bescom ofc. Knew a lil bit of kannada.that helped

InquzzitiveAB1986

If you know the name officers and middle men, send details to income tax department.

Lambodhara-420

What if u just record them asking money and publish?

UpstairsDependent131

Paid 15k as “processing” fee to a broker for a BWSSB meter. 18 months later, still waiting!

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